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drzed
I think this more of an ethical question (not a legal, or study design problem). Ethically, between the choices of being transparent with your patient, or not, the choice would be to disclose. Disclosing and offering to share would come across as a bribe, so that is less favorable than simply being transparent and putting the patient in charge of their decision.
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djtallahassee
Watch wolf of wallstreet to see quaaludes in action
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colonelred_
Females can get sertoli-leydig cell tumors, which are notorious for producing lots of androgen.
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brethren_md
Females can get sertoli-leydig cell tumors, which are notorious for producing lots of androgen
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sympathetikey
Females can get sertoli-leydig cell tumors, which are notorious for producing lots of androgen
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s1q3t3
Females can get sertoli-leydig cell tumors, which are notorious for producing lots of androgen
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masonkingcobra
Females can get sertoli-leydig cell tumors, which are notorious for producing lots of androgen
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mcl
Wait, but did anyone mention that females can get sertoli-leydig cell tumors, which are notorious for producing lots of androgen???
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mcl
But seriously though, pathology outlines says sertoli-leydig tumor "may be suspected clinically in a young patient presenting with a combination of virilization, elevated testosterone levels and ovarian / pelvic mass on imaging studies." As for follicle cell tumors, granulosa cell tumors usually occur in adults and would cause elevated levels of estrogens. Theca cell tumor would also primarily produce estrogens.
Putting the links at the end since idk if they're gonna turn out right lol
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pathology outlines for sertoli leydig
granulosa cell tumor
theca cell tumor
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fallenistand
Females can get sertoli-leydig cell tumors, which are notorious for producing lots of androgen.
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medpsychosis
So after doing some intense research, UPtoDate, PubMed, an intense literature review on the topic I have come to the final conclusion that......
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Wait for it....
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Females can get sertoli-leydig cell tumors, which are notorious for producing lots of androgen.
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charcot_bouchard
Hello, i just want to add that Females can get sertoli-leydig cell tumors, which are notorious for producing lots of androgen
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giggidy
Hold up, so I'm confused - I read all the posts above but I still am unsure - are sertoli-leydig cells notorious for producing androgen?
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subclaviansteele
Hold the phone.....Females can get sertoli leydig cell tumors which are notorious for producing androgen? TIL
TL;DR - Females can get sertoli leydig cell tumors = high androgens
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cinnapie
I just found a recent study on PubMed saying "Females can get sertoli-leydig cell tumors, which are notorious for producing lots of androgen"
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youssefa
Hahahahaha ya'll just bored
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water
Bored? you wouldn't think so if you knew that females can get sertoli-leydig cell tumors, which are notorious for producing lots of androgen
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redvelvet
how don't you get it that females can get Sertoli Leydig cell tumors, which are notorious for producing lots of androgen?
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drmomo
what if this means..... females can get Sertoli Leydig cell tumors, which are notorious for producing lots of androgen
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sunshinesweetheart
@medstruggle look up placental aromatase deficiency (p. 625 FA 2019), it would have a different presentation
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deathbystep1
i am sure i would ace STEP 1 if i only knew that females can get sertoli-leydig cell tumors, which are notorious for producing lots of androgen
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noplanb
Wait... I might actually never forget this now lol
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drmohandes
Females can get sertoli-leydig cell tumors, which are notorious for producing lots of androgen.
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lilmonkey
Don't forget that females can get Sertoli-Leydig cell tumors, which are notorious for producing lots of androgens! You're welcome!
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drpatinoire
Now I get it that females can get Sertoli-Leydig cell tumors, which are notorious for producing lots of androgens. Thank you very much.. So why choose Sertoli-Leydig cell tumor again?
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dr_ligma
The reason is because females can get Sertoli-Leydig cell tumors, which are notorious for producing lots of androgens! This is easy to remember, as you can remember it through the simple mnemonic "FCGSLCTWANFPLOA" which stands for "Females can get sertoli-leydig cell tumors, which are notorious for producing lots of androgen!"
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minion7
after receiving a f*king score..... this post made me smile and thanks to the statement-- females can get sertoli-leydig cell tumours, which are notorious for producing lots of androgen!
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djtallahassee
My worthless self put adrenal zona fasciculate but now I will never forget that females can get sertoli-leydig cell tumors, which are notorious for producing lots of androgen
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medguru2295
Wait..... so can females get Sertoli Leydig cells that produce androgens then??????
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peqmd
Going to snapshot this to my anki deck card: "females can get Sertoli-Leydig cell tumors, which are notorious for producing lots of {{c1::androgens}}"
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paperbackwriter
Watch me f*ck up the fact that females can get sertoli-leydig cell tumors, which are notorious for producing lots of androgens on the real deal.
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alexxxx30
just made sure to add to my notes "Females can get sertoli leydig cell tumors, which are notorious for producing lots of androgens"
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peridot
I also just wanna add that if you look on in FA on p.696969, you'll see that they'll mention "Females can get sertoli-leydig cell tumors, which are notorious for producing lots of androgen"
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mbate4
According to the literature [lol] females can get sertoli-leydig cell tumors, which are notorious for producing lots of antigens
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drdoom
the tradition lives on
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jamaicabliz
Wait... so for clarification, is it that females can get sertoli-leydig cell tumors, which are notorious for producing lots of androgen? Or that Females can get sertoli-leydig cell tumors, which are notorious for producing lots of androgen?? HELP
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abkapoor
Females can get sertoli-leydig cell tumors, which are notorious for producing lots of androgen
sorry for bad Englesh
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faus305
Sertoli-leydig cells are notorious for producing lots of androgens, females can get these.
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djeffs1
the fact that a bunch of medstudents can get so weird about how females can get sertoli-leydig cell tumors: notorious for producing lots of androgens- just made my week!! I love you guys
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niftykoala
As an extra piece of information, I would like to add that Bungee Gum possesses the properties of both rubber and gum.
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neurotic999
Oh I get it! Females can get sertoli-leydig cell tumors, which are notorious for producing lots of androgens. Makes alot more sense now after reading it a hundred times. Thanks guys!
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rdk3434
okay , this actually made my day and i also learned that Females can get sertoli-leydig cell tumors, which are notorious for producing lots of androgens!!productive
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laravonter
Since it has been a month, I feel the need to remind all that sertoli-leydig cell tumors are notorious for producing lots of androgens
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honey-crusted lesion
Great explanation! There's also a slide about this in the 100 Anatomy Concepts pdf but doesn't go into as much detail as this explanation. Thanks!
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djtallahassee
Good explanation but I think an AAA would be more likely superior mesenteric and hepatic. the SMA and IMA are more than 3 cm apart (L1 to L4ish), Triple A affecting both would be very large.
I blew this question because I saw 3cm and jumped to AAA, didnt even see it was a sclerosis thing. Put the two closest arteries and moved on
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neonem
I don't think you could have *totally* ruled out the other answers - I picked glycogen breakdown because it sounded kind of like Von Gierke disease (glucose-6-phosphatase) to me: characterized by fasting hypoglycemia, lactic acidosis, and hepatomegaly since you're not able to get that final step of exporting glucose into the blood. However, I guess in this case you wouldn't see that problem of glycerol/fructose infusion not increasing blood glucose. Nice catch.
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vshummy
I think you were super smart to catch Von Gierke! Just to refine your answer b/c I had to look this up after reading your explanation, von gierke has a problem with gluconeogenesis as well as glycogenolysis. So theyโd have a problem with glycerol and fructose but also galactose since they all feed into gluconeogenesis before glucose-6-phosphatase. Great thought process!
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drmomo
glycerol and fructose both enter the pathway thru DHAP and glyceraldehyde-3-ph. Galactose enters thru Gal-1-ph to glu-1-ph conversion
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linwanrun1357
In this cause (fructose bisphosphatase deficiency.,),fructose should help to increase serum glucose, bcz it can become into glucose-6-P by hexokinase.
Therefore, this question makes me confused....
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krewfoo99
According to uworld, fructose infusion will not increase blood glucose levels in Von Gierkes Disease as well
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atbangura
I believe Von Gierke is not a plausible answer choice because a galactose infusion would still not see an elevation in glucose levels. Remember, galactose could be converted to galactose 6 phosphate, but in order to complete gluconeogenesis and allow glucose to leave the Liver for an increase of its concentration in the blood, the patient would still need glucose 6 phosphatase which is eliminated in Von Gierke.
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lilyo
So what disease is this??? I mean couldnt we have just answered the question based on the fact that the patient responds to galactose being infused and we know that galactose feeds into gluconeogenesis?? I am so confused.
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djtallahassee
Its Hereditary Fructose intolerance right? gets sick after fructose and I guess glycerol can jump in via aldolase B on this pathway via page 74 of FA2019. It looked like a fructose thing to me so I just marked out the other ones and moved on.
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paperbackwriter
@djtallahassee I was wondering same, but hereditary fructose intolerance also results in inhibition of glycogenolysis :/ confusing question.
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amt12d
A much simpler way to think about this, without trying to figure out a diagnosis, I looked at the time frame for when the child was presenting. He has eaten poorly for 3 days, by now, his glycogen breakdown is gone. His body would be trying to make glucose, therefore, gluconeogenesis is impaired, not glycogen breakdown.
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tyrionwill
if fructose kinase is not available (fructose intolerence), then some fructose may go to F-6-P by hexokinase, then goes to G6P if gluconeogenesis is needed. however this patient's fructose kinase was intact, so no fructose would have go to F6P, so there would be no blood glucose increment after injection of fructose.
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shayokay
You had to know that fructose and glycerol enter glycolysis at DHAP/G3P, and galactose enters glycolysis at G6P (gal-> gal-1-p -> glu-1-p -> glu-6-p). This means that one of the 3 enzymes between G6P and DHAP/G3P is not functioning properly. Most likely this would be fructose-1,6-bisphosphatase because there does not appear to be anything wrong with glycolysis.
"Fructose-1,6-bisphosphatase (FBP1) deficiency is characterized by episodic acute crises of lactic acidosis and ketotic hypoglycemia, manifesting as hyperventilation, apneic spells, seizures, and/or coma. Acute crises are most common in early childhood; nearly half of affected children have hypoglycemia in the neonatal period (especially the first 4 days) resulting from deficient glycogen stores. Factors known to trigger episodes include fever, fasting, decreased oral intake, vomiting, infections, and ingestion of large amounts of fructose."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK550349/
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shayokay
Also, even though Von Gierke is categorized as a glycogen storage disease it is really a problem with gluconeogenesis not glycogen breakdown. So even if you thought this was VG, you still could have gotten the right answer. In VG, any monosaccharide other than glucose (fructose, galactose, glycerol, etc.) will not raise the plasma glucose level because they all require gluconeogenesis to be converted into glucose and this cannot happen because there is no glucose-6-phosphatase. This is why the treatment for VG is frequent oral glucose in the form of cornstarch and avoidance of fructose and galactose.
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sympathetikey
Agreed. I'm pissed though because PGE2 mediates pain, which is why I picked it.
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he.sanchez14
If im not mistaken, the question describes unstable angina. Unstable angina is due to thrombosis with incomplete occlusion. So, yes TXA2 is responsible for the thrombus that is causing the symptoms in this patient. I'm also pissed because I also went straight for the PGE2
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vik
hahah, seems like all in same boat like me
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yb_26
thromboxane A2 is also vasoconstrictor, so my thoughts were about vasospastic angina
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need_answers
I went for leukotriene B4, what the hell was I doing....SHIT
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hopsalong
I picked Leukotrine B4 thinking that the neutrophil infiltration was the source of the pain, seems wrong lol.
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bballhandler11
Sometimes it helps me to think of it in a general, non med school textbook kind of way. When answering, I narrowed it down to PGE2 and TXA2 as well. Then I asked myself, if someone is experiencing chest pain, would I recommend Aspirin or Advil? That's helped on a few over the counter pharm questions.
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ususmle
same here I M PISSED PGE2
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krewfoo99
Maybe PGE2 isint the answer because it mediates pain and fever during episodes of acute inflammation? Thus making TXA2 more likely.
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djtallahassee
ditto on the looked at it for 2 seconds and went PGE2
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veryhungrycaterpillar
My knee jerk reaction was to go with PGE2 for pain was well, but we must not forget that PGE2 is also a direct vasodilator. It also inhibits platelet aggregation.
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kungfupanda
I'm on a whole new level. i thought this might be an asthma attack and i choose LTB4
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an1
Intermittent chest pain does seem like angina. E2 does cause pain, but it also causes fEvEr. TXA2 inhibits platelets (unstable) AND increases vascular tone (prinzmetal) which makes it a better option. E2 increases uterine tone (check sketchy), not vascular so it can be chosen if they were to mention labor.
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ls3076
wtf is up with the phrasing of this question
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djtallahassee
Must have been Montelukast right? Since GCs do more of a downregulation thing than a true receptor blocking. Maybe I am not reading that last sentence correct though.
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calleocho305
Thought this patient had GERD Induced asthma so I said histamine... Fixing GERD will normally fix the asthma and a h2 blocker would do that..
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yesa
GERD-induced symptoms would be related to meals
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lumd
Picked Arachidonic acid because it was the only option that can be further broken down into active metabolites.
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maddy1994
exactly man i got 4.5 and i thought he asked ventricle and left circumflex should be there so i put 5 ...glad someone thought like me.i was just cursing myself for over thinking.
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djtallahassee
Yea put 5 here too. they are essentially saying the myocardial oxygen supply to the left ventricle comes from the LAD. Not sure if true or not but figured that the LCX would at least contribute 20% of the blood
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justherefortheyield
100% agree. This is definitely a better answer. I assumed the # would be beyond 5 but that it was closest to the right value.
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djtallahassee
lol yea. I thought they were trying to say there was an abnormally large amount of mitochondria present which made me get the opposite answer :/
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alexxxx30
no I so agree. The grammar was completely wrong (clearly whoever wrote the question needs to work on english). This was very frustrating to me because I recognized that it was ragged red fibers, but then the wording made me doubt my own knowledge (thinking how could the test writer mess that up?). abnormal accumulations either means too much or too little. accumulations of abnormal mito means thee mitochondria is faulty. Correct grammar is putting the adjective right next to the word it is describing. So this was definitely wrong and I share your sentiment. This really frustrated me!
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azibird
Definitely a mitochondrial myopathy, but I actually don't think it's Myoclonic epilepsy with ragged-red fibers (MERRF). This normally entails Myoclonic jerks, Generalized seizures, Cerebellar ataxia, and Dementia (according to Amboss). Maybe it's CPEO (chronic progressive external ophthalmoplegia): progressive extraocular ophthalmoplegia with bilateral ptosis. Not sure which one would account for her poor exercise tolerance. Either way, recognizing it's mitochondrial is enough.
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skonys
I just knew Dipalmitoylphosphatidylcholine because it was super long and I thought "these fucks will prob ask for the specific name" and then yolo'd on the lecithin part
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ht3
you're definitely not alone lol
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yotsubato
And its not in FA, so fuck it IMO
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link981
I guessed it because the names sounded similar :D
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yb_26
I also guessed because both words start with "glu")))
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impostersyndromel1000
same as person above me. also bc arginine carbamoyl phosphate and nag are all related through urea cycle.
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jaxx
Not a clue. This was so random.
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mkreamy
this made me feel a lot better.
also, no fucking clue
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amirmullick3
My immediate thought after reading this was "why would i know this and how does this make me a better doctor?"
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mrglass
Generally speaking Glutamine is often used to aminate things. Think brain nitrogen metabolism. You know that F-6-P isn't an amine, and that Glucosamine is, so Glutamine isn't an unrealistic guess.
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taediggity
I literally shouted wtf in quiet library at this question.
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bend_nbme_over
Lol def didn't know it. Looks like I'm not going to be a competent doctor because I don't know the hexosamine pathway lol
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drschmoctor
Is it biochemistry? Then I do not know it.
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jesusisking
I Ctrl+F'd glucosamine in FA and it's not even there lol
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batmane
i definitely guessed, for some reason got it down to arginine and glutamine
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baja_blast
Narrowed it down to Arginine and Glutamine figuring the Nitrogen would have to come from one of these two but of course I picked the wrong one. Classic.
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feeeeeever
Ahhh yes the classic Glucosamine from fructose 6-phosphate question....Missed this question harder than the Misoprostol missed swing
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schep
no idea. i could only safely eliminate carbamoyl phosphate because that's urea cycle
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flvent2120
Lol I didn't either. I think this is just critical thinking though. The amine has to come from somewhere. Glutamine/glutamate is known to transfer amines at the least
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djtallahassee
Sorry for the late add. Portal system does contribute to hepatic enceph ESPECIALLY when there is a TIPS or shunt that bypasses the liver. However before, it won't directly contribute to more NH3+
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Wouldn't telling the patient about the referral do more harm than good?
I guess maybe I read it as a study when it really is just a referral but its not that much of a leap to think that this "experimental"" treatment is part of a study