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A patient in the early stages of hemorrhagic ...
A weak pulse due to decreased stroke volume ๐Ÿ” / ๐Ÿ“บ / ๐ŸŒณ / ๐Ÿ“–
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submitted by โˆ—dr.xx(176)
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Hypovolemia is a direct loss of effective circulating blood volume leading to:

  • A rapid, weak, thready pulse due to decreased blood flow combined with tachycardia
  • Cool, clammy skin due to vasoconstriction and stimulation of vasoconstriction
  • Rapid and shallow breathing due to sympathetic nervous system stimulation and acidosis
  • Hypothermia due to decreased perfusion and evaporation of sweat
  • Thirst and dry mouth, due to fluid depletion
  • Cold and mottled skin (Livedo reticularis), especially extremities, due to insufficient perfusion of the skin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shock_(circulatory)

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thrawn  Why no sweating? +2

BP/HR are most important to monitor in early stage

Hb starts to drop after 8-12 hours

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LOW FLOW (HYPOTENSION) ...> LOW SV...> ^SYMPATETIC

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justanotherimg  Does this mean that in early stages, sympathetic stimulation hasn't happened yet, that is why pulse is weak ? Because otherwise pulse should be rapid (tachycardia in response to sympathetic stimulation caused by decreased stroke volume). +1
chaosawaits  There will be both tachycardia and weak pulse in early hypovolemic shock +


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submitted by โˆ—atstillisafraud(217)
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Ambiguous question but in because it is early shock, there is not enough time to activate the RAAS to increase kidney perfusion.

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makinallkindzofgainz  This is not an ambiguous question. It makes perfect sense. +7
khaleb  In early shock you have increased SVR due to vasoconstriction. This would cause increased flow to the kidney. I could be wrong but I think what makes that answer incorrect is NOT that RAAS hasn't been activated yet. It is what is causing vasoconstriction via Angiotensin II. What is possibly wrong about that answer is that it says via sympathetic stimulation. I do think it is a little vague between those two answers though. Because you can get sympathetic activation of the RAAS system causing vasoconstriction and blood shunted to vital organs such as the kidneys. Bottom line is you can't argue with weak pulse during hypovolemic shock.... so an obvious right answer. You could make a case for the increased blood flow to the kidney though. +3
zqatan  @makinallkindzofgainz no need to dismiss the question... so pretentious +3
chaosawaits  @zqatan, interesting, I thought OP was the pretentious one: to each their own, I suppose +
leap1608  FA2020 PAGE 310 simply focusing on term hemorrhagic shock preload decreases highly which would decrease the stroke volume. early sympathetic system would only increase the heart rate( as cardiac output= stroke vol*heart rate ) +


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