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nissimhazkour1
my line of thinking is that gonadal mosaicism is much less likely considering there is a family history of the disease.
If there was no family history then a gonadal mutation causing mosaicism is possible, but taking into consideration how there is a clear AD inheritance, it must be that the person inherited the disorder but is not expressing the phenotype. hope this helps!
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mittelschmerz
Yes thanks! That feels like it should have been so obvious in retrospect, ugh.
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I agree! Also, At the end of the stem, the question is which of the following best explain the patients symptoms? Not physical exam findings. Since this patient is coming in with a chief complaint of SOB while playing sports exercise induced asthma is the best choice. Hopefully that helps.
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uslme123
I mean... couldn't increased BP during exercise worsen his MVP and give him SOB?
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yotsubato
"Lungs are clear to auscultation"
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sahusema
But wouldn't choosing exercise-induced asthma leave the murmur unaccounted for?
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cienfuegos
I incorrectly chose malingering and am wondering if the fact that he presented (although it doesn't state who brought him in/confirmed his symptoms while exercising) makes this less likely despite the fact that he clearly states "I don't want to play anymore" which could be interpreted as a secondary gain? Also, regarding the MVP, I'm wondering if the fact that these are usually benign should have factored into our decision to rule it out? Thoughts?
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cienfuegos
Just noticed that he has FHx, game changer.
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kimcharito
clear lungs, they try to say no cardiogenic Pulm. edema, means is not due to MVP
shortness of breath while doing sports and no shortness at rest makes me to think more asthma induced by exercise)
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pg32
Isn't exercise induced asthma usually found in people running outside, especially in cold weather? I feel like that is how it is always presented in NBME questions, so this threw me off. Not to mention the MVP.
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happyhib_
it took me a little; the FHx really pushed me to exercise induced. I was also looking at malingering but there wasnt a real reason to push me to this (as a doctor it would be sad to be like hes faking it becasue he doesnt want to play sports with out being sure first; led me away because there wasnt enough pointing there). Also MVP could be slightly benign and is very common and usually no Sx and his lungs were clear as was rest of exam. All pushed to Asthma
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mittelschmerz
I think MVP on its own shouldnt cause SoB with cough (in a question, I'm sure it could in the real world). In the world of NBME questions where you need to follow the physiology perfectly, you would need some degree of MR that lead to LV dysfunction/vol overload, and theres no pulmonary edema nor an S3 that point us towards that. Malingering would have to be faked for gain, and theres no external gain here or evidence that he's faking symptoms. You would also need to r/o physical illness before diagnosing malingering, which hasnt been done. Cold weather is certainly known for exacerbating EIA and are the exam buzzwords, but any exercise can absolutely be a trigger
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mittelschmerz
He also has MVP, but asthma is more likely to cause this symptomatology and he has a family hx.
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mittelschmerz
In portal HTN, the splanchnic vasodilation results in a drop in systemic BP and renal hypoperfusion. That leads to RAAS activation that increases SBP enough to maintain renal perfusion, but the aldosterone-mediated Na/H2O retention leads to edematous states (ascites here). Treating with spironolactone allows you to treat the the fluid component without disrupting the vasoconstrictive effects of AngII that is the only thing maintaining renal perfusion, which is why spironolactone is correct here, but also why prescribing an ACEi or ARB in a hepatic patient like this is v v bad.
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nbmesucks
I just took it as this guy is on a loop diuretic so he's gonna lose his potassium. So to minimize this we give a potassium sparing diuretic.
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mittelschmerz
The Babinski tripped me up too, here's what I found: "Sixty percent of the CST fibers originate from the primary motor cortex, premotor areas, and supplementary motor areas. The remainder originates from primary sensory areas, the parietal cortex, and the operculum. Damage anywhere along the CST can result in the presence of a Babinski sign." from https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK519009/
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yourmomsbartholincyst
I think this question is more simply about the topographical arrangement of the homunculus (which I once again somehow managed to flip backwards during the exam). Lower extremity is topographically mapped to more medial portions of the somatosensory cortex, hence letter G and why ACA strokes tend to affect the LE more. Homunculus, our favorite hunk, FA2020 pg 502
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j44n
excuse me i miss spoke its the ACA because its her legs, look at figure 4-2 in the link on my previous comment
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j44n
so if you have motor and sensory the infarct is in the portion that belongs to the motor portion, if you have sensory only youve occluded the artery more distally
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chaosawaits
This is purely a homunculus question. Any further thought into it is just overkill.
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mittelschmerz
So mad I second-guessed myself on this. Its always PCP or huffing glue smh
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bingcentipede
Think I had UWorld question on this. Apparently in this age group (teens), inhalants like glue are the first drugs they try. Only ever seen this on It's Always Sunny but w/e
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chaosawaits
They took you, Nightman and you don't belong to them. They left me in a world of darkness without your sexy hands and I miss you Nightman, so baddd...
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zalzale96
Created an account just to up vote this answer
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cheesetouch
1998 journal via google " Myocardial injury after cardiac surgery with cardiopulmonary bypass may be related to free oxygen radical-induced lipid peroxidation"
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peteandplop
"Evidence suggests that reactive oxygen species (ROS) may play important roles in the pathogenesis in myocardial infarction [2]. Following ischemia, ROS are produced during reperfusion phase [3, 4]. ROS are capable of reacting with unsaturated lipids and of initiating the self-perpetuating chain reactions of lipid peroxidation in the membranes" (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2274989/)
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mittelschmerz
Honestly the wording got me on this one. Great answer
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acerj
Also, you can rule out a few of the options to help justify this. Post MI you expect necrosis, not apoptosis. Remember, apoptosis is suicide, and necrosis is MURDER! Cell swelling is a sign of cellular injury, not cell shrinkage. The heart will undergo coagulative necrosis, not liquefactive necrosis. Also, protease inactivation by cytoplasmic free calcium is kind of nonsensical to me. Free calcium is more likely to cause cell injury via caspases (a form of proteases amongst other things), which is why calcium is usually bound up inside healthy cells.
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ownersucks
This question presentation is exactly how Sattar said in pathoma Ch2. Raise in cardiac enzyme following reperfusion
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amy
FA2020 305: Reperfusion injury: free radical and increased Ca influx--hypercontraction of myofibrils
There is increased cytoplasmic free calcium ions, but it induces hypercontraction, no protease inactivation.
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mittelschmerz
I was stuck between those as well. My thought process was that megakaryocytosis would be mature megakaryocytes though, which would not happen in a megakaryoblastic leukemia since they are stuck in the blast stage. That left only lymphoblasts, and I presume while one may be MORE likely age 5, a patient with Down Syndrome is still at higher risk for both.
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cassdawg
"Megaloblastosis" as in the answer choices refers to megaloblastic anemia in B12 and folate deficiency, so it is not associated with megakaryocytes or megakaryoblastic anemia! Hope this helps!
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nissimhazkour1
my line of thinking is that gonadal mosaicism is much less likely considering there is a family history of the disease.
If there was no family history then a gonadal mutation causing mosaicism is possible, but taking into consideration how there is a clear AD inheritance, it must be that the person inherited the disorder but is not expressing the phenotype. hope this helps!
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mittelschmerz
Yes thanks! That feels like it should have been so obvious in retrospect, ugh.
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How do you know for sure that this is incomplete penetrance and not gonadal mosaicism? Dont both allow an AD disease to be transmitted by a phenotypically non-expressing carrier?