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nbme21/Block 3/Question#37 (reveal difficulty score)
A 5-year-old boy who has homocystinuria ...
The line on the graph labeled โ€˜Bโ€™ ๐Ÿ” / ๐Ÿ“บ / ๐ŸŒณ / ๐Ÿ“–
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submitted by โˆ—sahusema(173)
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GUYS! You really have to look at the axis labels. The question says the pt.'s cystathionine synthase activity (y-axis) is NORMAL with an INCREASED amount of pyridoxal phosphate (x-axis). Y-axis is the same as NORMAL, x-axis shifts to the right showing INCREASED pyridoxal phosphate

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skonys  Imma just take the L on this one if it comes up. I was able to narrow it down to B & C because if they are increasing pyr phos and at some point the cystathione synthase activity is ~normal~ then it must intersect the normal plot probably at the Y access for reasons I don't know it just feels right. D doesnt intersect at all. A intersects at essentially 1/0 activity (idek if that makes sense but it just looked sus). So then I was between B and C and tbh at that point I think your best bet is to 50/50 it and move on with your life unless you want to do derm or something and need to get it correct but what do I know? I go to dental school. +
umpalumpa  I disagree with sahusema explanation. The x-axis has 1/pyridoxal phosphate, which means that going to the right on the x-axis, lvs of pyrydoxal phosphaste are lower (and the inverse= 1/pyridoxal phosphate, goes higher). +
sahusema  @umpalumpa it's been a long time since I posted this, but when you do this (-1/โ†‘X), you approach 0 meaning you slide the graph to the right +1



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submitted by โˆ—amirmullick3(76)
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The Lineweaver Burk Plot is mainly interpreted by its X and Y intercepts. The question states that giving B6 increases the activity to normal levels, which means the activity should be the same as the normal. Hence, their Y intercept should be the same, so we are between choices B and C. A and D do not have the same Y intercept as normal. Higher concentrations of B6 caused activity to become normal, and so Vmax will not be changing and we can cancel A and D. A has a lower Vmax and D has a much higher Vmax. The difference between B and C is in their Km. Moving to the left on the X axis makes the Km lower and tells you that affinity is higher so you would not need more B6. But in our case affinity of the enzyme for B6 is really low, which is why we need a ton more B6.

In summary, we want the same Vmax and a higher Km. We want the "normal" activity (same vmax as normal) and we need higher amounts of B6 for success so affinity of the enzyme for B6 is probably very low.

Choice B has a (-1/Km) value closer to 0 which means Km is lower and affinity of the enzyme for its substrate is super low. This makes sense as giving higher amounts of the "competitive" substrate B6 is helping.

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apurva  This explanation is wrong!!! X axis is not 1/km in the question, it is 1/pyridoxal phosphate. (1/km should be 1/homocysteine) Also the question is asking about allosteric activation of cystathione synthase due to addition of pyridoxal phosphate. Which means the Km should decrease (affinity increases after addition of pyridoxine). Considering the x axis to be 1/pyridoxal phosphate, now apply simple logic of maths, increase pyridoxal phosphate = bringing line more close to zero (because it is -1/pyridoxal phosphate). +13
apurva  Had the X axis be 1/km, the answer should be C +1
pinkdinosaur  Km is inversely related to the affinity of the enzyme for its substrate. The closer to 0 on the X-axis, the higher the Km. FA 2020 pg 230 +



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submitted by โˆ—lamhtu(139)
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Needing "higher concentrations" of the B6 for enzyme activity is another way of saying Km is higher since more is required for 1/2 vmax activity. Increased Km values result in 1/Km being smaller (closer to 0 on the x-axis), which is demonstrated in answer choice B.

A "normal" enzyme activity in the presence of higher B6 concentrations means that Vmax is not changing, but Km is.

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d_holles  In other words, Normal enzyme activity = Vmax Adding more B6 to a mutated enzyme will improve it back to normal (Vmax stays constant, so Km will decreased due to โ†‘ affinity of the enzyme). +3
jatsyuk38  ^^ THIS is the best explanation +
drdoom  @jatsyuk38 the comment or the subcomment? +
drdoom  oh, double caret = bump,bump = the comment (@lamhtu) +



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submitted by โˆ—trazobone(97)
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Some of these explanations really doing the most. If the enzyme is able to increase to normal activity with a higher level of the substrate, that means weโ€™re in a competitive inhibitor situation. Competitive always crosses on the graph, so we can eliminate A and D.

Now we analyze Km. We want small Kmโ€™s for potent enzymes. Size does not always matter ๐Ÿ˜‰. Except in this case we donโ€™t want that potency, we want to look for a 1/(really big Km), (value that is closer to zero), bc we want a weak big Km to be able to overpower the competitive inhibitor. Comparing the remaining 2 choices, B has a Km value closer to zero so thereโ€™s your answer.

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submitted by navevan3(2)
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For this question, I was thinking that they asked you compare to a โ€œnormalโ€ person, so the Vmax wouldnโ€™t change since they state that his activity returns to a normal level. Only the x-axis would since it would be at increased concentrations in comparison.

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submitted by โˆ—an_improved_me(91)
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So i found this question ridiculous... the explanations provided did not really clear it up for me, but i think i understand it now (please correct me if i'm wrong).

First and foremost, I'm not even sure if this is truly a lineweaver-burke plot, since the X-axis is not 1/Km.

But, more generally, I tried to understand what happened at both extremes of [PLP] and Velocity.

PLP: Ask yourself: where on the graph is [PLP] highest? Well, if the X-axis is equal to 1/PLP, PLP would be at its highest at the value closest to 0 on the x-axis. (think: what is 1 divided by a billion? VERY CLOSE TO ZERO). This would correspond to a point along the y-axis for the enzymes activity. In other words, PLP is at its highest concentration at the graphs Y-intercept.

Remember what we also said: when the mutated enzyme is around lots of PLP, it basically functions like a nml enzyme. This means, that the Vmax of the mutated enzyme is equivalent to the Vmax of the normal enzyme. Therefore, The 1/Vmax of both enzymes are equivalent... at the y-intercept! This is big! If you get this far, then you can eliminate (A) and (D), since these graphs have different Y-intercepts (different V-maxes) for their respective enzymes.

Moving on...

Velocity (V): When V is at its highest (i.e. Vmax), the value of 1/V would be at its lowest. (Again: think of it practically: what is 1 divided by 1 billion? ~0!) Therefore, the value of 1/V is at its lowest when the y-axis is equal to 0. Therefore, The Vmax of this occurs when the y-axis is close to zero... Heres the thing tho.. these enzymes require different levels of PLP to operate at V-max. Remember, the V-max of the MUTATED enzyme will happen at a much HIGHER [PLP]. Or conversely, the V-max of the NORMAL enzyme will happen at a much LOWER [PLP]...

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an_improved_me  Meaning, when we look at the X-intercept (when V is highest), the mutated enzyme will require more PLP. More PLP means a "lower" value on the x-axis (closer to zero) relative to the normal enzyme. +1
an_improved_me  Putting it ALL together: y-intercept will be the same for both mutated/normal enzme x-intercept will be closer to 0 for the mutated enzyme, relative to the normal enzyme. The only answer that has both correct relationships is (B). I think i spent 5 minutes on this question trying to figure it out. I probably would have needed 10 minutes to actually get there. Hopefully now I can get it quicker if something like this shows up on the real thing. +2



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submitted by minhphuongpnt07(5)
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be aware that the x-axis for this question is not "Km" (vitB6 is not the subtrate that's 1/[VitB6]. to simpify, because the Vmax is gonna stay the same, you just need to increase [vitB6] to get the same Vmax (aka shift to right on the x-axis). Don't be fooled around by the question writer.

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poisonivy  this makes sense to me, X cannot be Km!! because if it was Km then line B would be showing a "competitive inhibitor" effect, which cannot be the case since they state that the enzyme activity increases to normal after B6 administration so it favors the reaction instead of decreases it. I got this one wrong of course, too tricky for me! +



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submitted by โˆ—empem28(1)
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Nobody has answered this question through the lens of a learning objective quite yet so here's my 2 cents: Km is INCREASED bc this patient has an enzyme with an overall LOWER affinity (can be corrected to normal after an increase in substrate) which is characteristic of COMPETITIVE inhibition, which is why the line of the pt. is one of competitive inhibition on a LB plot

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submitted by stapes2big(16)
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The question is basically setting up a situation similar to that of a competitive inhibitor. They say that higher concentrations of pyridoxal phosphate increases the activity of the enzyme to normal levels. Similarly, when you have a competitive inhibitor and increase the concentration of substrate, the enzyme can achieve the same Vmax as if without the inhibitor.

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submitted by โˆ—usmleuser007(464)
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Remember 1) competitive inhibitors ~ lines Cross at y-intersect 2) Non-competitive inhibitors ~ no line cross

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submitted by โˆ—hungrybox(1277)
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Long answer ahead, but bear with me.

HINT: v looks kind of like y, whereas k looks more like x.

y-intercept = 1/Vmax

  • Vmax is the upper limit on how fast a reaction is catalyzed by enzymes.

x-intercept = 1/Km

  • Km is a ranking of how good an enzyme is at binding its substrate. An enzyme with a ranking of 1 is better at binding its substrate than an enzyme with a ranking of 5. (Lower Km = better enzyme)

Note that Vmax, as a measure of performance, can be altered through many things. Meanwhile, Km is a set characteristic of the enzyme, and cannot be altered.

In this example, the enzyme performance (Vmax) is increased by increasing the vitamin cofactor so that it reaches a "normal" activity. However, the enzyme is still inherently shitty due to a congenital defect, so the Km stays the same.

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mnemonia  Awesome. +
ht3  wait line B shows the vmax doesn't change and that the km is getting larger (enzyme is still shitty so larger km) so -1/km would be a smaller number and would approach 0 +1
lamhtu  You say Km cannot be altered and its staying the same, but the answer of the graph demonstrates a higher Km value. Needing "higher concentrations" of the B6 for enzyme activity is another way of saying Km is higher since more is required for 1/2 vmax activity +18
sbryant6  Yeah this explanation is wrong. +
kcyanide101  Honestly, this question is rubbing me the wrong way.... If we go by the Line weaver burk plot, then "C" is the correct answer, because "B" is showing competitive inhibitor.... The enzyme here is competitively activating. Someone needs to explain this better please, some of us paid on this forum to get a meaningful explanation and not contributions from fellow test takers....lol +



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