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nbme21/Block 3/Question#18 (reveal difficulty score)
An 83-year-old man comes to the physician ...
Bullous pemphigoid antigen ๐Ÿ” / ๐Ÿ“บ / ๐ŸŒณ / ๐Ÿ“–
tags: derm repeat

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submitted by โˆ—castlblack(78)
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  • Pemphigus vulgaris is vulgar in that the blisters rupture and it's gross. + Nikolsky sign. (Its also more vulgar to use your mouth which is why only vulgaris has oral blisters.) Desmosomes are shot.
  • bullous pemphigus is therefore not vulgar and doesn't pop = - Nikolsky sign. Hemidesmosomes are shot.

  • lets rule everything else out for completeness

  • Collagen type VII (i know wtf) = basement membrane btwn epidermis & dermis. NBME language synonyms = Basal Lamina, Reticular Lamina, Extracellular Matrix. Hemidesmosomes, which are made of integrin, fibronectin/laminin, bind to this collagen so it is close to correct but still wrong.

  • cytokeratin is that intracellular intermediate filament in epithelial cells used in stains to distinguish cancers.

  • Desmoplakin is apparently a part of desmosomes, which makes etymological sense. They are going for paraneoplastic pemphigus here. Sucks for them cuz we never learned that one haha. Gottem.

  • Aside here--FA 2020 just mentions desmosomes are made from desmoglein I and III. Antibodies against desmoglein I and III are seen in pemphigus vulgaris and against I is seen in scalded skin syndrome from Staph aureus via exfoliative toxin AKA exfolitoxin. That is why both diseases are + Nikolsky. Good old nikolsky

  • plakoglobin? nobody cares.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolsky%27s_sign https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desmoplakin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exfoliatin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plakoglobin

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submitted by โˆ—haliburton(225)
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Bullous pemphigoid antigen must be hemidesmosome. FA: bulla are "bullow" the dermis (subepidermal blister). BP also yield "tense" bulla.

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seagull  I love how this cant be straight forward. All the other proteins are either subunits of desmosomes or cytoskeletal components. Because I know molecular biology that well on top of the majority of medicine....FML +12
cienfuegos  @seagull: excellent comment, literally loling right now +
cienfuegos  or sobbing and threatening to hold my breath if they don't make it stop +1
daddyusmle  WHY DIDN'T THEY JUST PUT HEMIDESMOSOMES THE FUCK +17
skonys  Because they are sweaty virgins +1



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submitted by โˆ—drdre(28)
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Bullous pemphigoid "Bull House" bulls are tough (BP do not rupture easily) and house reminds us of hemidesmosomes

Pemphigus vulgaris "Demphigus" for desmosomes

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submitted by โˆ—nicnac20(21)
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In bullous pemphigoid, autoantibodies are made against BPAg1 and BPAg2 found on hemidesmosomes.

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submitted by โˆ—calvin_and_hobbes(2)
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"clear-fluid-filled, tense blisters" and "subepthelial blister" with "autoantibodies" scream bullous pemphigoid, but I thought BP blisters were itchy>>painful. Contrast with pemphigus vulgaris in which pain>>itch.

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