NBME 20 Psychogenic polydipsia (NBME Answers)

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A 23-year-old man with a 3-year history of ...
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submitted by ∗drzed(332)

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Patient has low serum sodium = hyponatremia.Given that the patient has a LOW URINE OSMOLARITY, it suggests that ADH is NOT active. The only way for someone to have hyponatremia AND a low ADH (in this case) is through psychogenic polydipsia (e.g. if it was SIADH, the urine would be MAXIMALLY concentrated and it is NOT in this case)

(A) would cause central DI -- no ADH means one develops hypernatremia as free water is lost in the urine, thus concentrating the serum.

(B) osmotic diuresis could cause hypernatremia due to loss of free water in the urine

(E) resistance to ADH (nephrogenic DI), again, hypernatremia.

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lovebug thanks for kindful labeling! :) +2

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submitted by ∗masonkingcobra(408)

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In psychogenic polydipsia, serum sodium is low, and after water deprivation test, urine osmolality is increased. Urine osmolality does not increase with vasopressin injection

In nephrogenic diabetes insipidus, serum sodium is high and there is no change/mild increase in urine osmolality after water deprivation

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yotsubato This patient does not undergo a water deprivation test +12

niboonsh Compulsive water drinking or psychogenic polydipsia is now increasingly seen in psychiatric populations. Effects of increased water intake can lead to hyponatremia causing symptoms of nausea, vomiting, seizures, delirium and can even be life threatening if not recognized and managed early. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5579464/ +7

missi19998 Just wondering why it in not resistance to ADH action of vasopressin +

amarousis because he would be hypernatremic with no ADH. can't resorb any water +1

minhphuongpnt07 low osm/urine, low os/plasma => psychogenic polydipsia +

benitezmena In this question the pt had a normal urine osm (80) a low urine osm would be <50mosmol/kg. +

euchromatin69 u world 212 +

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submitted by ∗dickass(127)

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Yeah, so, turns out this is not Nephrogenic DI due to lithium use, you don't give lithium to treat schizophrenia.

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mbourne If it was Nephrogenic DI, you would have essentially have the effects of too LITTLE ADH. This patient shows severe hyponatremia, essentially the effects of too much water in the serum. This could be from SIADH or polydipsia, and the question stem and answer choices leave us with Psychogenic Polydipsia as the correct response. +1

rockodude I was thinking about carbamazepine causing SIADH but that is an anti-epileptic not antipsychotic and also as someone said above, the urine would have high osmolarity due to water reuptake at the collecting duct. just fyi +

Anecdotally, some of my clinical faculty have mentioned that typical antipsychotics have a very high predilection to cause psychogenic polydipsia.

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